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but we insist on making it complicated."
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Forging Ahead?
Tim McCurdy, a NATIONAL Party MP has been accused of forging the letterhead of a real estate agent so he could wrongly claim hundreds of thousands of dollars in sales commissions.
More >>> here  PGW Agriservices has accused Mr McCurdy of “engaging in misleading and deceptive conduct” and unconscionable conduct in contravention of the Fair Trading Act.

What Doctor Fidge
actually said about

Council staff Competence:
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Money printed by reserve banks create poverty and slavery.
Why are we allowing them to do this?
Politics and  Power go hand in hand. Read the article in the above link and see why and how. We dont NEED a Carbon Tax. But Politicians require ANY excuse to raise more taxes for wasteful unwarranted schemes..Dont be fooled. Its just the Liberals (and Banks) getting in on the money grab built by LABOR! 

Who runs the Councils?
Listen to this!

CEO's over paid r1258244_16827633
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Joseph Thomson (ABC
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Jack Davis of Ratepayers Victoria

Jack Davis of the Victorian Ratepayers tells it as it is. Link to Ratepayers site
We may be Rural but we are not stupid!
Link to Blog
My Email john.vance@wangarattacity.com
More legal action may be pending for some, in Wangaratta's fight for justice for the dismissed Councillors. More later!
It depends on a proper legal response.
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You are a victim of the media
Most great world scares seem to go through seven main phases:
1. They appear to be based on scientific evidence which is accepted at the time. 2. They get obsessive, often hysterical media coverage.
3. There is a massive response from politicians and officials.
4. They impose new laws that inflict enormous economic and social damage.
5. The scare then fades away as it is found to have been flawed or wildly exaggerated.
6. Nobody ever admits they got it wrong.
7. The “scientists”, media, politicians and bureaucrats move on to the next big scare and the whole process starts again.
Scientific:
Item on lack of Solar Activity < Link
What is consensus?
< Link
IFair Comments!

In a pot shot at the Greens and minor parties, Mr Abbott said: “Ask yourself: What do minor parties actually get done, other than make it harder for government to do its job?

“Minor parties are much better at attracting media attention, rather than getting things done.

Don’t vote for a minor party and in particular don’t vote for a minor party (usually they say they're independent) that is going to be constantly with the Opposition.

“The Greens are really the second wing faction of the Labor Party – that’s what they are.

“I think people want a strong voice in the federal parliament, rather than people who just make a noise. To do that, you need to vote for people who are part of the Government in power."

Submission on States Stealing  Water.

Climate Related :

Other issues are weakening industries and farming. which leaves Australians deeply in debt. 
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Carbon farm reality bites <<Story
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Your human rights are at risk for the sake of the "environment".
But there is a deeper issue!
That of being run  by the Labor party "authoritites" ie commissars in the future, using the  environment as an excuse for  restrictions. Not the elected councillors, MP's and others, and it appears voters are falling for it. Local councils are hamstrung by these devisive laws which seek to weaken property owners in many ways. EG water/dam/environmental  restrictions. The poor are  being made poorer and the rich are just lapping it up, as long as they dont rock the "boat".
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How can we accept that we export coal, shut down our power stations, while encouraging developing countries like China and India (who are opening three new power stations every week) not to do so? 
See >> link Are we crazy?
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Even if the opposition win at the next election, enough is structured to allow this situation to continue as banks and others stand to profit from the U.N. environmental policies of Agenda 21.
You dont believe the LABOR party would do this? I experienced the "recession we had to have".
It cost my job and home. I am angry! Notice all the Australian growers and industries suffering from this policy? Holden, Ford and Toyota were paid billions to stay here, while destroying jobs which allowed people to buy cars etc...
FRUIT growers are being decimated. Our Australian Dollars should be devalued today..
Why are we having problems in local council?
It appears Dr Fidge is attacking council  sustainability policies (and other council  policies). When asking for information, he is refused. So they attack the man. The Labor party supported Public service union of course supports the CEO. This is despite their members not being able to have political bias. All the other stuff is just fluff to confuse local newspaper readers.

When our Council was replaced, perhaps the ingrained local CEO should have had provision in State legislation to move him on as well.

They do this at Police stations, to stop familiarity with locals and potential problems! This is of course a lot more important to prevent in councils.

If you can't stand the heat, you should stop cooking!

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 Links to other areas.

Fact or Fiction?

No recent warming of planet.
News from the Met, Great Britain

More Detail < here

You decide...
See the link and first chapters of an interesting book on the fiction of climate change propaganda.

An IPCC expose on Global warming

 

A book written to explain the incorrect interpretation of climate by the IPCC for political puropses which is being followed by our current politicians! (From both sides? Time will tell!)

Even at council levels, but by stealth. Think sustainability.


Your sound judgement, in voting is also required to help make politicians responsible for the trauma they inflict by policies and bad decisions!

Current ones should face court !

I have lived through and traced the progress of the `ice age' scare of the 1970's, the `nuclear winter' scare of the 1980s, and now the `global warming' scare of the present.
 All these scares have advanced the interests of what was a small academic discipline 30 years ago to become a mammoth global industry today. It is my view that this industry has, through the `politics of fear' which it has promoted, is acting  against the interests of the public.
His Website:
http://www.john-daly.com/index.htm
This man's obituary about his life and details about climate change makes more sense than the political rubbish that "scientists" are dealing out!

They are looking for more tax payer funded "research" and following political directions to get this!
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The ugliness of a Committee.

I had hoped for better, but the signs are all there:
A bureaucracy is "a body of non-elective government officials" and/or "an administrative policy-making group". This explains the Administrators of Wangaratta Council. 
They have  ignored local needs for their own policies and expect ratepayers to foot the bills.

Every single sensible decision made by the previous sacked Councillors appears to have been reversed:
The Wangaratta stock yards, the pools and rural land strategy....are some of these.
They are not listening, and cry crocodile tears when a simple poll found the current council is not popular.  The Wangaratta Administrators Code of Conduct is NOT  available on their website though it is  listed..... Link >> to Wangaratta Administrators Code of Conduct it is not viewable!
It is supposed to be a public document.
THE Brimbank councils Adminstrator Code of Conduct here is though. Link
 It makes for interesting reading and should apply in Wangaratta. Why isn't it shown?

A word to the unrepresentative Administrators  and Tim McCurdy:
We need a new election, not bureaucratic  rubber stamped decision making process for state government. In other words "GET OUT" Your'e not welcome and never were!   There is no reason why we could not have another election. It was Darebin council which set the precedence.
The recent events clearing Councillor Fidge, and by the Ombudsman on due process, are signs that all is not well with public servants, and even our elected representatives. (See below)
Chronism comes to mind. Cronyism is partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications and interests.

       In other words "GET OUT"
Your'e not welcome and never were!

Its rather sad that I once again have to make this point:
The Wangaratta Chronicleis failing its duty
on balanced disclosure on findings regarding the sacked council.
Its failed to give an even view to our sacked councillors and recent findings.
See below for reason. You wont read this in our Chronicle....WHY?
Pressure from local organsations? Surely not!
The Wangaratta Chronicle is denying local justice by its attitude!

Why are there problems in Wangaratta? Is this the reason?
Letter from Alison Walpole << Link

Link to full story in the Border Mail link

Council Settlement with Dr Fidge

There has been a common sense breakthrough with Wangaratta Council and Doctor Fidge's legal team.
While details are confidential, it appears both parties are happy with the result.
More details will follow as soon as all facts are in and able to be published.
The issue has been discussed behind closed doors and evidence may have been produced to clinch the truth about the matter, which could not be disputed, resulting in this agreement. 
I look forward to interviewing one of the parties in a while, but think that for the benefit of Wangaratta, and further legal proceedings with others, that many issues won’t be exposed until these are over.
Some people may find this to become very expensive, unless they concede that they were politically motivated.

Time wounds all heels....

It appears that Doug Sharp has gone "home" to Moira shire. After all this is where at least one of the projects which were planned for Wangaratta finally went. Both he and previous Alpine Shire employees are now at Moira shire. Not exactly a good fit for a council already in turmoil!

With some people having worked with others, it could imply cronism.

I would like to see more information on projects that were moved because of undue influence and by some who had a direct conflict of interest.  


“We have been cleared, but from what?
From the Border Mail March 8, 2014

A KEY investigation used to help justify Wangaratta Council’s sacking last year has failed to pinpoint any breaches of the Local Government Act.

The Local Government Inspectorate’s probe into 77 alleged breaches were publicly mentioned by the minister Jeanette Powell and her municipal inspector Peter Stephenson as reasons why the council had to be dismissed last September.

The inspectorate this week sent letters to the key players in the alleged breaches, including Julian Fidge, clearing them of any wrongdoing.

It claimed a “thorough investigation of all complaints” had been carried out and there was no basis to take any further action.

The move has incensed Dr Fidge and former deputy mayor Paul O’Brien, with the two former councillors stating at no stage were they contacted to respond to the complaints levelled against them.

“These findings go to the heart of the natural justice we’ve been denied all along,” Mr O’Brien said.

“It is another demonstration that the minister and the municipal inspector’s comments and reports were devoid of factual data to justify the dismissal of council.”  

“The whole situation is entirely unsatisfactory,” Dr Fidge said.

“We have been exonerated, but from what?”  More >>> here


Letter From Dr Fidge: To the Border Mail May 11 2014
Dear Editor,
I was disappointed with the Border's reporting of my recent complaint about Wangaratta Council because it created the impression that I seek money from the Council.

I do not want money from Council, just for Council to correct their records and correct the misinformation that Council officers provided Council staff - who by virtue of living and working in a small town are my neighbors, patients and friends.

The money mentioned in your headlines is a quirk of the court's form. I was required to enter an amount that I would be prepared to settle for, and I set the amount at the maximum the Magistrates' Court will deal with so that Council will not attempt to pay me out and avoid correcting the information.
I don't need or want Council's money. I just want them to tell the truth.
Kind Regards,

Dr Julian Fidge.
BPharm, Grad Dip App Sc (Comp Sc), MBBS, FRACGP


Editor note: Having been involved and keeping an eye on the politics of the situation, I can only agree. There has been some disgusting happenings due to the CEO and his staff's behavior.                             
Link to Border mail story <<<

What will happen here?

Ex Councillor, Doctor Julian Fidge has asked Tammy Atkins to retract her statements to the Wangaratta Chronicle. He has asked her to admit to various statements by her as not being true and has given her the opportunity to do so perhaps before being sued by court action for defamation.
The repercussions to Wangaratta  due to her opposing views, created the situation where council was sacked on the support of many inside the Council itself, the Labor party, as seen by union action and attendance by staff from council at meetings. I cannot understand why people working at council seem to think they were more important than the people they were working for
(The people of Wangaratta!) 
I believe the New councillors were more representative of the people before arguments set up by the opposition to the Parisotto councillors led to them being dismissed by the local government minister.
Shades of the Whitlam dismissal (without evidence it seems) We await the last Vcat hearing with my prediction that it probably wont go well for Ex Councillor Adkins! Time wounds all heels?
The Human rights issues used to dismiss council may not apply to Councillors.
This will be looked at.

Australian Weather Forecasters "homogenise" history of  temperature in Rutherglen!

Link to story >>> http://tinyurl.com/poor-w-science <<<<Link fixed

Queensland's Amberly Air base similarly treated to show warming as do other weather sites with raw data tampered with by the Weather Bureau...

When commenting on this material on ABC rural radio I was cut off! 

Where is Joseph Thomson?

Comment by Ken Ring New Zealand long range weather forecaster:

Australia’s new Prime Minister Tony Abbott ran a campaign entitled "climate change is absolute crap". Opponent Kevin Rudd’s electoral campaign was to witch-hunt sceptics. Australia is now set on a course of ridding itself of what Maurice Newman, recently appointed as Chairman of the Prime Minister's Business Advisory Council has called "fundamentalists" who had "collected hundreds of billions of dollars from naive governments that adopted their faith".

Faced with growing scepticism of climate change, Green-wooing governments are stepping up propaganda, attacking like animals do when cornered. You will read about NZ having the warmest year ever in 2013, but every year will be the warmest ever if you are chasing funding.

And the IPCC have said the globe will heat up by 4C unless we pay more taxes.
The Earth has failed to warm as computer models predict, there's nothing extreme about today's weather, and hundreds of thousands of predicted climate refugees cannot be found.  They told us island nations like Kiribati and Tuvalu would sink beneath the waves, yet new luxury resorts are going up there.  They scared the kids about polar bears, but polar bear numbers are way up and the bears are thriving. 

See http://tinyurl.com/itsacfact 

The St John's retirement Village saga should now be revisited by Wangaratta Council. As a non profit organsation, to put financial hardship on older Australians must be condemned. See link...

After reading this you will see how X-Councillors Paino McInirny and McPhie voted on this issue....and most likely never vote for them again...after all the matters are considered including interference in the sacked Council.

    

Environmental (Sustainability) issues are controlling councils Australia, and world wide. They are being used to gain control over property, preventing land owners from earning income by using various restrictions. Like a noose, these restrictions will get tighter as more foreign investment takes place. Both major parties appear to be involved using these restrictions for their own ends.

This site aims to show its effects and its use by corporate bodies to control employment and town expansion. Wangaratta Council isn't the only council involved, but it starts in local council as legislation is rolled out by public servants.

The issues with Wangaratta council are more than skin deep. 

Unfortunately you haven't been told, and council hasn't shown you that the sustainability department is the cause of all our problems.

Its being used to deny the town our Stockyards upgrade and its possible sale.

Barnawatha will benefit as it builds it's 20 million dollar stock yards and will most likely buy our towns economy by doing away with it.

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History of Wangaratta Council dismissal : Link to Wangaratta Chronicle

It will be interesting to see how biased the Wangaratta Chronicle were with their reporting.

Wangaratta Councillor Appeal  15 August 2014 Editorial

I went to VCAT at the start of the appeal on August 11 and 12th, by Dr. Fidge and heard the appeal from its beginning. The appeal has finished with counsel for both parties summing up.  Doctor Fidge gave evidence of senior staff's refusal to work with him due to the things he felt needed change for the better.

Rozi Parisotti, the previous Mayor of the sacked council, at the appeal, gave evidence of email, and mail being intercepted under a CEO policy where council opened and put all mail in an official record, no matter who it was addressed to.

This clearly wrong!

X-Mayor Rozi herself, warned me of emails being open to the CEO and staff, and didn't want me to send email to her official council address, when we were running for office in Wangaratta.

She now appears to think it was fine for Council officers to open private mail.  

I am concerned that she knows so little about this being illegal, or appears to be ignorant of this law, and may be protecting the previous CEO in this matter. Treating Councillors as employees and opening their mail shows disregard for Councillors, as well improper behavior to employees.. 


For any letter to be addressed via council and an employee, it must first be seen by the employee, who then should pass it on if its a matter for council. Council should not intercept all mail as it currently breaches UN and Public servants Public Record Office Victoria's guidelines. >>> See link


There is a rule in Wangaratta Council, that any mail sent to a Councillor or public officer can be seen as council business, if it has to do with council and is open to scrutiny.

BUT private mail mustn't be seen as such. The experienced CEO Douglas Sharp would have known that. He appears to have thrown out the rules. 


The issue reared its head when it, the Labor Party,  exposed itself in its party politics when it posted private congratulatory emails from Liberal Sophie Mirabella to some Councillors without permission. I would assume others, who were elected did not get a congratulatory letter. This would be because it was known what side of politics they followed. So any claim that party politics weren't being followed would have been an illusion, put in place by people controlling council. 

(So why did they want to hide their Labor party politics? In the country Labor party politics are on the nose. They wouldn't have been elected. So they now use stealth policies. Editor)

 

             More: Story from >>> David Johnston Border Mail <<<<<<


The issue of the Councillor Conduct Code , which Dr Fidge wasn't party to signing, and he claims was written by Don Joyce, and constructed to prevent public comment by Councillors, and most likely prevent public criticism,  of wrongdoing and other matters council was active in. It was censorship like they have in China, Dr Fidge maintains, and not conductive to good representative government. 

Extract from the Border Mail article.

"On the first day as a councillor I was made to feel so uncomfortable by Doug Sharp and the council management team,” Dr Fidge said.

“As the newcomer I was made to feel isolated and undermined.

“This management team had a history of running Councillors out of council.

“I needed to establish I wouldn’t be stood over and wouldn’t be gagged.”

Dr Fidge conceded he made critical comments of the council staff and former Councillors, including calling them “clowns” on a Facebook page he used during the election campaign.

“They treated residents appallingly,” he said. “This is why I got elected.

“Given what had been going on in Wangaratta for the last decade, I was very mild and temperate in my language.

“Wangaratta was the slowest growing town in Victoria.” he said!


Complaints about Doctor Fidge, one of Wangaratta's sacked Councillors, have been posted here. 6 August 2014 VCAT Complaints  <<<Link

It is interesting to see how petty these complaints are.

My opinion: 

The senior staff and  CEO were dysfunctional and complaining like little girls when they had a job to do.

Obstructing a Councillor, a public representative is illegal.

Workcover showed them they could not do this.(and most likely were asked to resign for the public good)

So why did the Local Government Minister, Jeanette Powell sack the whole Council when things were starting to come together?

It was political interference so the cancelled Rural land strategy and other matters could be reversed and implemented.


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<<<          Is this or similar behavior happening in your local Council?    <<< See upper left.

(Latest on Dr Fidge's bullying appeal below)

Banks are a threat to our society as we know it. Professor David Evans  allows you to see how they manage our very lives and ru(i)n our economy
Dr David Evans consulted full-time for the Australian Greenhouse Office (now the Department of Climate Change) from 1999 to 2005, and part-time 2008 to 2010, modeling Australia's carbon in plants, debris, mulch, soils, and forestry and agricultural products.
Evans is a mathematician and engineer. The area of human endeavor with the most experience and sophistication in dealing with feedbacks and analyzing complex systems is electrical engineering, and the most crucial and disputed aspects of understanding the climate system are the feedbacks. He believes the evidence supporting the idea that CO2 emissions were the main cause of global warming reversed itself from 1998 to 2006, causing Evans to move from being a warmist to a sceptic.




Solar slowdown causes colder climates world wide effects as predicted is happening Link <<<

Wangaratta Council will go to court.

Story by John Vance. 19 July 2014.

Councils are supposed to be run by Councillors. It appears however this is not the case.

The head on clashes resulting in bullying charges being laid in many councils these days is the result of an organised conspiracy by public servants.

I attended the appeal by previous Councillors Doctor Fidge v Wangaratta Councillors at VCAT in Melbourne.

The matter at VCAT on the Thursday, 17th July resulted in the late lodgement of altered complaints on Tuesday by previous members of Wangaratta council, loosely termed the opposition in laymans terms. Papers by  Don Joyce, Tammy Adkins, Lisa McInirny and Rozi Parisotti which were due a month or so ago. This was said to alter the Dr Fidge's appeal completely, with counsel for Doctor Fidge, requesting more time to study these new or altered allegations, (if in fact they were altered) from the original appeal.

  ( I have difficulty in seeing this matter proceed this way, due to the issue never being questioned as to why it was lodged late---The complainants seem to be making this up as they go along Perhaps realising they would be adjourned, the complainants never turned up, except for X Mayor R. Parisotti)

The Tribunal made the decision to adjourn the matter because of these new alterations, after a hurried look by Doctor Fidge's counsel (after an overnight recession) and it was agreed to by both parties, who set another date for the altered full hearing. This will be on the 11th of August. 

I would suggest frivolous complaints like these (if the Tribunal finds this to be frivolous) should attract a serious penalty if it interferes with legally elected Councillors. I have no doubt that further procedures will be needed to bring this shameful part of council history to a conclusion with the perpetrators in deep trouble.

Costs to council will be substantial, caused by those people who fail to see that the rights of elected people must be recognised, and not by some kangaroo court panel, which ignores local government acts and uses instead, foreign UN human rights policy, never being intended for use against  elected Australian officials. Let's hope VCAT  can find a positive finding this next month.

 Unsubstantiated bullying accusations by public servants, or in this case, council employees, is a common tactic to be used as a weapon towards superiors, and complaints by all government and semi government employees, as shown by escalation of stress leave being paid out by Workcover all over Australia. 
Frank Penhalluriack is a case in mind.
From Wikipedia.

At an informal hearing into allegations of bullying the CEO Penhalluriack refused to attend, describing the proceedings as a "kangaroo Court" because evidence was procured by Ms O'Neill secretly. Her report has never been published, even to Councillors, but Penhalluriack was referred to a Councillor Conduct Panel in November 2011. On the first day the panel members referred the matter to the Victorian Civil and Administration Tribunal (VCAT), where Penhalluriack would be entitled to hear evidence under oath, and cross-examine his accusers. At that point all of the bullying allegations were dropped.

These sort of  issues are part and parcel of the job of decision making, and should be more carefully considered.  Issues causing these situations and their legality should be quickly investigated if these cause friction where there should be none.  Link << 

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Previous story.

Wangaratta Council has decided to defend itself against claims by Dr Fidge in court. Dr Fidge only wants his name cleared, as allegations by opposing Councillors were, in his words" untrue"  The previous CEO of Wangaratta council was also instrumental it seems, in distorting what Councillor Fidge has said about staff in council, resulting in various senior staff going on "stress" leave before finally seeing the reality, and vacating their positions, after a work cover decision showed their attitude was non productive and could not continue.

I would assume the general voting public will be very interested in the outcome, which must result in a fresh election after all this is cleared up in a legal court. It would seem to me to be an un winnable situation for council after some successes by Dr Fidge previously and a further VCAT hearing on the 17th July. A Councillor will also be encouraged to apologise due to issuing various complaints bypassing local mediation, which was in place.

 

Material found here is never fully published by Newspapers.
 
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The Delphi Technique: Let’s Stop Being Manipulated!
Kitchen table meetings?

By Albert V. Burns

More and more, we are seeing citizens being invited to “participate” in various forms of meetings, councils, or boards to “help determine” public policy in one field or another. They are supposedly being included to get ”input” from the public to help officials make final decisions on taxes, education, community growth or whatever the particular subject matter might be.

Sounds great, doesn’t it? Unfortunately, surface appearances are often deceiving.

Read on .....................


These coloured links aim to be informative. Information found by you on this subject will be gratefully received. Send them to john.vance@wangarattacity.com

Conflict of Interest?

Wangaratta Cattle Exchange Gets 4.8 % of Victoria's total sales.

        Ailsa Fox supported Barnawartha North in a previous senior role with the Victorian Farmers Federation.See Border mail story <<< Conflict of Interest?
 So why do the unrepresentative Committee running the Council wish to delay upgrades?
 A meeting, by "Friends of the Stock Exchange" with council, was held on Wednesday 28th May 2014, with a petition handed over with eight hundred signatures. These were collected in less than a week. We look forward to a positive result rather than what most see as a council move to a negative results affecting local business and jobs!
Surely with all the local area farmers supporting this yard, there is no alternative but to go ahead with this.
The Wangaratta Stock Exchange (sales yards) issue has to be understood in its importance for locals .
Local jobs, and businesses in town are dependent on this yard being upgraded and I for one cannot understand why the council committee is sitting on its hands.
Wangaratta already has 4.8 per cent of the total livestock auction sales in Victoria.
With only 27 yards operating in Victoria that in itself is quite a successful achievement.

If Council continues to do nothing, it will be handing over the sales and income to the privately developed sales yards in Barnawatha with council missing out on $100,000 plus local income on Thursdays market day visitors.
That to me doesn't sound like commercial sense for us, but may be for the new salesyard being built in Barnawatha which will be licking its lips at the opportunity for this extra business.
See Border Mail story & Valid comment

 Tim McCurdy is not supportive, as we could have had the recognition we needed from the State in the form of a development grant.Cathy McGowan is strangely silent on this matter....
We have no elected people in Wangaratta Council, the so called democratically elected state and Federal ministers who should represent us are not doing so, as far as I can see and have direction of their own. There needs to be more resistance in Wangaratta to these people and not silly ones like the "hands of the ABC"  by Alan Lappin. We in Wangaratta have bigger fish to fry....        Editor....

Wangaratta Stock Exchange

What will happen here?

THE ABC CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH THEIR SENSATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL "NEWS"
You never ever hear news questioning their so called "facts" for good reason: their stories are not sustainable and would fall over! Never stop asking questions!
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Dr Pim's class below did rather overdo the questions...
The sound clip on YouTube was one of many broadcast on radio and a favourite for many since the 1930's and was heard in the 1960's and is still schoolboy fun.
The play on words, the plots were crazy and great. Many more available on YOUTUBE.
If you think these people are nuts, read below the sound clip what is happening in the real world...
The "Real World"
A link for those inquiring budding scientists amongst us.
A Cutting Edge discovery and proof of sun controlling our climate?
You decide what makes more sense:
one part per 2500 of CO2, causing greenhouse effect
OR variable solar output which caused the ice ages and warming.
Link >>>  http://www.landscheidt.info/
The old saying
comes to mind.
"You can lead a horse to water , but you cant make it think"
Many will ignore these findings as they dont like to change their thinking....
Only inquisitive people will follow the logic. Which one are you?
"A lie will travel the world, before truth can get its pants on!"
Winston Churchill
Informative Antarctic History <<<link

Leadership In the US? Theyr'e NUTS!
David E. Allen Just wait until next month when Obama signs his executive order banning CO2 emissions. He has stated publicly he wants to shut down the coal industry. An ENTIRE INDUSTRY, people!! How is this allowed, or legal? You think you pay high rates for electricity NOW?!? Just wait...
Link http://tinyurl.com/no-coal-4U ·
May 20 at 8:09am

Feeling Hoodwinked?
Germany has had to increase reliance on coal because renewable are so unreliable.
Due to green pressure to shut down Nuclear Power stations,
Germany is installing 20 new brown coal fired power stations,
and exporting power to ECO powered nations in Europe finally realising that no wind or Sun, means NO POWER!
Six are currently being tested.
Reports that 72 percent of their pwoer being generated doesnt take into account that this was a peak power situation, and coal fired base load power stations were still running, wasting their input. They cannot be shut down to reduce waste.....
Link  
China and India are installing 800 new coal fired stations!
Meanwhile in Great Britain, they are importing wood from the USA to fuel their converted coal fired power stations.
Dont believe me? Links to stories
Link 1    Link 2     Link 3  Link 4
An Australian Horror story

Electricity Prices: a Real Horror Story

Link Collusion

Energy retailers fail to disclose fees

Link ABC
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Wangaratta Council update.

LABOR PARTY Involvement in Council?
So Council is being sued by Dr Fidge!
Perhaps he was right all along.
There is no point in suing unless there has been a miscarriage of justice.
The reason I stood for Council myself in 2012 , was that I saw a cosy relationship with Councillors, and the CEO who ran meetings like they were conducting an inquisition, and acted like they were more important, than the people they were supposed to represent!
One report: a Councillor was asleep at a meeting.

Various policies which were obviously
against the interests of Wangaratta Ratepayers were seen.
Despite telling voters that party politics weren't part of  Council, before being elected, the previously replaced Councillors screamed the most, when a sympathetic PRIVATE congratulatory email to successful Councillors from Liberal Sophie Mirabella was released to the local Newspapers.
(despite legally being a private letter!.)
What other emails were being intercepted?
Were other councils influencing us, preventing factories like "Uncle Toby's" moving here?
You can be sure of one thing.
The Labor party was deeply involved with local council and affected by federal politics and were instrumental in getting Cathy McGowan elected!.
I saw the personalities involved. They included senior Ex council staff and Tammy Adkins.
While I wouldn't normally be upset and say good on her, the same Labor party policies are being followed by Cathy McGowan. The Public have been misinformed!
Is she Independent? No! She was devious to not state her position on policies.
Do not ever vote for someone who is deceptive like this.

We need to be able to trust politicians and their promises!
We also need to see what is possible and what is not.
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Cattle Sales Yards
Why is Council stonewalling the Cattle Sales yards upgrade, when Blind Freddy can see the financial benefits of upgrading the sales yards,  at very little cost, for great benefit to local business? 
Perhaps the sustainability department, which has been very quiet of late, has something to do with it. Wangaratta Council are members of the International Council for Local Government Initiatives. (ICLEI) When asked about this,  Councillors had no idea.

The previous CEO did though. ECLEI is a organisation with policies which are deceitful in their implication. They remove all sorts of rights we have all taken for granted, without any compensation. 
For instance the United Nations Agenda 21 states that "eating meat" is unsustainable. So ideals banning certain practices will be implemented making sure you cannot compete with Government authorised cattle growers. These are usually the larger properties.
No doubt salesyards will also be limited due to this.
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I have heard that one member of our council committee has stated previously, that he/she thought Victoria only needs to have seven rural cattle sales yards. This is currently being investigated and we may have some relevant information shortly.
Surely that preempts the fact, and should prevent  that member  having any say about this in council?
Lets put it to the vote and have a mini referendum regarding this income producing industry . 
Perhaps we should understand the current unrepresentative management committee running council is also unsustainable. We are less represented, than fed propaganda.
Why haven't the voters of Wangaratta been able to vote in another lot of Councillors? My thoughts on this are suspicious.
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 MAYBE the voters would vote for the same people we voted in last time... They were sabotaged by news papers and the ABC which Allan Lappin is so concerned about. WHY is he? The answer: the ABC is only giving one side of the story when they interviewed me that would have gotten the other side! It wasn't what they wanted to expose.

The unresolved salesyard issue will create unneeded costs for local farmers if it is allowed to die instead of being a preferred farmers market as may be happening when other improved yards come into being. Why not ours? Who is the Wangaratta council looking after? Certainly not locals.
If it isn't logical its political...
We know a lot about having the wool pulled over our eyes. After all this is the country....

Law of ILLogical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about

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Federal Politics
6 May 2014:
US urges closer ties on climate change. <<Link
America with a broken down economy, do we really wish to tackle a "Fairy" story by following America's economy to ruin?
The US is one of the world's largest polluters and Australia only creates 1.5 percent of the worlds pollution. We export coal so others can continue to keep doing the same. Then punish our population with ever increasing power prices. Who is being silly?
Paul Keating gave us the recession we had to have: Rudd set us up for the Carbon Tax we didnt have to have, but  will achieve the very same thing if the economy isn't handled with careful hands.....
DONT DO IT MR ABBOTT!
If America jumps over the fiscal cliff, why should we jump!
American Debt Clock <<< Link
We may upset the Marshall Islands due to sea level increase?
These islands are low lying coral atolls and were never stable and are now blaming western development for their problems...which have a inclement weather history of their own going back thousands of years. It's a fake sea level claim!



Insanity: The European Union will spend $7 trillion to (try and ) stop 0.05 degrees Celsius of warming. That's one twentieth part of one degree...

It's a redistribution of money

That’s nearly $82 billion a year for 86 years…does anyone honestly think that’s money well spent? Link <> Video

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“Those people who think they know everything, are a great annoyance to those of us who do.”
Isaac Asimov

Might I somewhat misquote and modernise Asimov: 

"Those people who think they know everything, are a great annoyance to those of us who also have computers and get the real facts." John Vance.

Limited Parking?
Blame previous destructive Councils & CEO.
The were certainly not the illegally sacked Councillors.

Wangaratta's parking problems are self made.

I have seen no need for parking meters or restrictions. But because Council insists in packing even more businesses into the city center, we have inflated rates, shops leaving town and unfair behavior by the larger stores inside the city putting up low fences so their parking lots cannot be used by people not shopping there.

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<<< Making you walk and inconveniencing you!

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This "free parking" draws people to their parking lots, which it would not do, if parking was free everywhere else, at the detriment of local traders.

So they loose business. Council of course benefits by parking fines, (to the tune on 1 million dollars a year its claimed) and parking meter fees, while motorists are inconvenienced, by needing to find change and making it possible to be booked, while doing so, especially lately, by parking meters that do not work.

Are council legally booking owners of cars when they don't actually identify the driver? In a court the owner of the registered vehicle isn't obliged to identify the driver. Their own council local government laws say people do not need to incriminate themselves. But Vicroads actually allow this to happen. It is against the constitution of Australia, but it doesn't seem to worry them that they are actually breaking the law themselves. 

Are these parking meters legally accurate? These fines need challenging!

Things you ought to know!
Want some facts from scientists?
Here is a >>> Carbon Tax Submission:
Want to know who is looking at Australia?
The European Union  <<< link
Coming to a bureaucracy near you by courtesy of the UN.
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The IPCC, as usual, has a scary scary prediction this week, that we will have to spend even more, on methods to stop global warming, as the current spend on alternative environmental energy generation isn't yet working. Their methods are a scam and none of their environmental predictions will or have worked!
I would suggest they talk to the Germans Chinese and Indians who are firing up even more lignite (dirty coal) fired power stations. CO2 is increasing, while global temperatures are normal.
It reminds me a bit of the scares that started world war 2! 
Link to story & Further link
Replace "America" with "Australia" in this video to get explanation on factory and job losses.

April 2 2014

“Those people who think they know everything, are a great annoyance to those of us who do.”
Isaac Asimov

Might I somewhat misquote and modernise Asimov: 

"Those people who think they know everything, are a great annoyance to those of us who also have computers and get the real facts." John Vance


NOW > Global Warming is Destroying April Fools Day
Why? Well all the jokes about global warming are one more reason to laugh at the desperate International Panel for Climate Change's claims. 

April Fools day is every day for the man-made CO2 warmists.

Global Warming causes everything!

The latest installment of the UN's IPCC report on global warming is out and it's all about fear. That's all they have left.


Comment by Ken Ring New Zealand long range weather forecaster:

Australia’s new Prime Minister Tony Abbott ran a campaign entitled "climate change is absolute crap". Opponent Kevin Rudd’s electoral campaign was to witch-hunt sceptics. Australia is now set on a course of ridding itself of what Maurice Newman, recently appointed as Chairman of the Prime Minister's Business Advisory Council has called "fundamentalists" who had "collected hundreds of billions of dollars from naive governments that adopted their faith".

Faced with growing scepticism of climate change, Green-wooing governments are stepping up propaganda, attacking like animals do when cornered. You will read about NZ having the warmest year ever in 2013, but every year will be the warmest ever if you are chasing funding.

And the IPCC have said the globe will heat up by 4C unless we pay more taxes.
The Earth has failed to warm as computer models predict, there's nothing extreme about today's weather, and hundreds of thousands of predicted climate refugees cannot be found.  They told us island nations like Kiribati and Tuvalu would sink beneath the waves, yet new luxury resorts are going up there.  They scared the kids about polar bears, but polar bear numbers are way up and the bears are thriving. 

See http://tinyurl.com/itsacfact  


"States of Fear: Science or Politics?"
A must watch video for real understanding of our current political system and what its doing to your tax dollars.
Read Further
The item ends with:
So, next time you see a “scientist”, reporter, politician or bureaucrat hyperventilating about Global Warming or Climate Change or Ocean Warming or whatever – just remember, it’s only the latest in a long line of scares that are hugely exaggerated, scientifically flawed and pushed by those whose self-interest is served by riding on the scare bandwagon.


Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, remarked: "All these global warming schemes are "socialism masquerading as environmentalism."
I can only agree. Its a pity some haven't the brains to understand this.

How is this working? Look up Fabians on Google and start understanding what is really going on!
Here is a start Fabians
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Bullying or failing to do their job causing stress?
It seems the media had a hand on misreporting issues of alleged bullying, a card that can be pulled by any public servant it seems, when you look at all the "stress leave claims" by public servants Australia wide
 (public servant sick leave has created a "blow out" in health insurance and work cover budgets)
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But its all happened before: Heatwaves Australia January, 1896

The long continuance of the unprecedented heat wave in New South Wales is proving a very serious matter to the residents in some of the districts, especially in the western portion of the colony.

Over 125 deaths from heat apoplexy have occurred In New South Wales, and to this number Bourke has already contributed 40. The matter has become so serious that the railway authorities have commenced running trains at special cheap fares, to enable the residents to seek a cooler climate, and a great number are availing themselves of the opportunity.

25 Jan 1896 – The Heat Wave in Australia. NEARLY 200 DEATHS FR…

CO² at the time was 290 parts per million.


         Don't expect the truth when they publish scary Climate Change scenarios either!
 

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A disturbing letter from Doctor Julian Fidge about the Australian Electoral Commission.
Please note, this is an interpretation of unproven facts, that require further investigation, but the local complaint seemed to have been swept under the carpet by various government  departments. Which leads me to a logical conclusion.
Also: When is a party not a party? When various people claim they're independent and they support the party you wouldn't vote for in your wildest dreams. That's whats been happening in Wangaratta!: both in Council and in Federal politics.
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An Extract from Dr Fidge's letter : "I was elected to the Rural City of Wangaratta Council in 2012. I had a few scrutineers at the ballot counting, all of whom are of the utmost integrity.


During the ballot counting, it became obvious that there were a large number of ballot papers that had been filled in by the same person. The hand writing was so distinctive that one scrutineer drew it to the attention of the returning officer.


The observation was fobbed off with the explanation that in some families, one person fills out all the ballot papers.


But this must have been a very large family. Another scrutineer reported to me independently that they observed the distinctive ballots, all written by the same person, at the rate of 2 per bundle of 50 ballots. With 17,977 votes, this would mean the family had over 700 members!


According to the detailed results, these votes were used to elect 4 Councillors. I have elected not to name the four Councillors whom, it seems, were fraudulently elected."

More >>>: Link here

Please note:
Skepticism is not a feature here! Neither is pessimism as used by Crackpot environmentalist.
Real environmentalists don't use concensus and can think for themselves.
Email: john.vance@wangarattacity.com for comments
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Jobs going, power bills sky high? Blame something called Agenda 21
The huge costs involved in generating subsidised low efficiency "environmental" power are all
caused by Agenda 21.
The carbon tax is Agenda 21
The increased job losses, increased electricity prices, the factories shutting down, exporting coal while we are asked to shut down coal generated electricity?
Its a set up by Al Gore and the United Nations.
(Caused by Agenda 21)
Al Gore could be seen as an insider trader!
The Carbon Tax (she promised we were not going to have) was the reason Julia Gillard got her seat in the United Nations.
She is now the head of a 60 Billion dollar educational fund, also funded by the UN.
Miss Education perhaps?
Link to item Careful this of this newspaper  its the Labor supporting "Guardian" 
The real problem is created by the FAKE global warming doomsday scenario
costing billions world wide.
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Letter to the Editor The Wangaratta Chronicle < Not published as it makes too many valid points.
In case you are wondering what Agenda 21 is: Link here < Its scary...and the truth Link here <

On 12/02/2014 John wrote:

Dear Editor,

Regarding our Members of parliament, both  State and federal.
Their actions,show  its clearly its not the locals they're listening to!
The push for various sustainability acts (Agenda 21) are the root cause of all Australia's woes.

From removal of council to the unnecessary carbon tax (and consequently loss of jobs)

Implementation of the stealthy "Agenda 21", which includes misuse of human rights, has been enacted in the case of the recent sacking of the Wangaratta council by Janet Powell.
What right has Jeanette Powell got to implement foreign policies disguised as local government reform, and then failing to implement them in a way to suit the Minister?

United Nations Human rights issues, were ignored  when it came to the rights of the democratically elected Councillors, and the citizens of Wangaratta.

You cant pick and choose who you intend to use them on. Human Rights apply to everyone.
Councillors or Citizens were never considered as she implemented so called "government reform", without input from ALL the people she is supposed to be representing.
 She didn't, or couldn't even use the local Government  Act 1989 to do so.

They removed whatever rights Councillors had, including appeal. And other councils can be in the firing line by calling out “We are being bullied” when a CEO feels like it.
Part and parcel to this all was Tim McCurdy, who voted for the dismissal of council in Parliament.
Mr McCurdy has admitted to me, he had no legal qualifications, yet is instrumental in ignoring the Australian constitution when he supports taking water rights from farmers.

I would suggest that voters at the State election take careful aim at the Independents and Nationals who say one thing, but support foreign LABOR policies.
They are similar to Communist reform which was resisted during the Cold War. It was also being implemented by Federal Labor government and supported by the Unions.

MP Cathy McGowan, supported by previous sacked council stalwarts, the X CEO, as well as at least 3 former voter removed councillors (Labor party members) and a National party supporter, called Tammy Adkins, at the election, are now enacting Labor "environmental" policies, despite claiming to be independent.

  McGowans refusal to remove the carbon tax policy, which  is decimating jobs, industries, farms and companies, like SPC, when they were allowing dumping of Italian canned fruits and then not doing anything about it. SPC should sue the previous LABOR government.
The scorched earth polices of the Federal Labor government wont be forgotten by people who can think outside the voting booth.
I'm sorry I voted for them. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!

Japanese company Inpex has confirmed all of the gas from its Ichthys fields off the coast of north-western Australia has already been forward-sold and none is available for domestic needs in the Northern Territory.

The Change in Political Climate.

We in Australia are being run, at this point in time, by an organsation in Geneva, Switzerland and Manhattan America.
I will provide the link to information later.
It is affecting all levels of government, including one branch which isn't government but pretends to be. This is your local council.
The organisation  causing this is called the United Nations.
Are they truly representative of all nations?
They may have been at first, after World  war 2 , but like all bureaucracies they eventually lose focus.
Today the United Nations looks more like an undemocratic organisation pretending
to focus on world rights but is really a Socialist front.The issues are political rather than environmental, and stem from the likes of Bush, Clinton and Gore.
At the end of the Cold War the United Nations had to look for a reason to exist or they would have disbanded . So they choose a devious method using a combinations of the environment and human rights to plan a new world order.
 You can see why Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard were so busy trying to get a seat in the United Nations. Julia introduced the Carbon Tax and promptly got a seat for herself.
It had  very little to do with Human Rights and all to do with removal of those rights.
IT WAS USED TO REMOVE WANGARATTA CITY COUNCIL!
Your democratic voting rights were never considered!
The Australian Constitution is being bulldozed with water rights, environmental issues and energy policies which, like in most other developed countries are escalating costs of manufacture and creating unnecessary  poverty.
This they have been told is for their own good, as these resources are finite.

They are right to a degree. So why are we in Australia are giving ours away.
 In the Northern territory for instance, a Japanese gas conglomerate has been allowed to export gas but leaves no gas for for the locals   Link

Research yourself <> National Library
Better environmental methods Link

The Wangaratta Council conspiracy

Fair comment

Please note: Every one can have a fair say here. 

The key is FAIR say. If its not fair comment I may have to "edit" it some.

The letter below passes the fair test.

Drop me a line! My email address is john.vance (at) wangarattacity.com put in (@)

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Comment

On the matter of government control of water, I would suggest this is vehemently resisted, and replaced by a committee of local property owners who, depending on available water can make rational informed decisions as to allocations. This will retain the status quo

Real environmentalists make allowances and dont ad hoc policies.

The removal of water rights from properties can only be done by referendum, but looking at the current record of the Victorian state government it is ignoring human rights as well as referendums! It is time this was handled in a proper manner as I believe MP Tim McCurdy has no formal legal education or qualifications in these and is complacent in this matter.

Our current "representatives" lack integrity.

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